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have not been legally consulted. >> again, that's the south dakota style of government. certainly in montana we always do government to government relationships with the tribes. >> but it is a federal issue with the tribes, is it not? >> it should be a federal issue with the tribes. the state is the regulating agency but the state has got to do business government to government. >> good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time so much. we will continue our series tomorrow night here on "the ed show". "politics nation" starts right now. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the fight against stand your ground and the legacy of trayvon martin. today vigils and protests are being held all across the country to mark a somber date. it's been exactly two years since the shooting death of
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17-year-old trayvon martin. the tragedy that sparked a national outcry, started as a local news story. >> new tonight a deadly shooting. police have the gun, they have the shooter, but they have not arrested him. and as keith landry tells us the dead man's grieving family wants to know why not. >> is that your friend? >> that is my son. >> reporter: we met tracy martin at the crime scene. he says his 17-year-old son, trayvon martin, was shot to death. >> the country came to know trayvon's grieving parents. and within days the death of this young man triggered massive protests throughout florida and beyond. i, myself, was moved to action. >> we came for permanent
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justice. arrest zimmerman now. that's what this rally is about. >> i want to say first and foremost i thank god for being here and i thank god for you being here. [ cheers and applause ] i still say we need an arrest. thank you. >> less than a month after the shooting president obama addressed the tragedy. >> my main message is to the parents of trayvon martin. you know, if i had a son he would look like trayvon. and, you know, i think they are right to expect that all of us as americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. >> three weeks later george zimmerman was finally arrested. and his acquittal last year to set off new questions about race
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and justice in america. in particular, the growing influence of stand your ground laws. in 2005 florida became the first state to adopt the law. since then 66% of people who have invoked stand your ground in florida have walked free. and more people than ever are carrying guns. today there are 1.1 million concealed weapons permits in florida, triple the number from before stand your ground. it is not just florida. 24 other states have followed suit with similar laws. stand your ground is a national injustice and that's why the fight continues two years after the shooting of trayvon martin. joining me now is congress woman brown, a democrat from florida, and a tireless fighter to repeal stand your ground.
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and jonathan capeheart who covered the for the "washington post." >> two years after the shooting of trayvon martin, are more americans waking up to the injustice of the stand your ground law. >> thank you for your leadership in this manner. every time a jury gets the instructions, stand your ground is a part of the instructions. so whether the prosecutors or defendants, when they send the jury out that is part of the instructions. and stand your ground needs to stand down. i'm looking forward to joining you and the leadership in this country, the congressional black caucus and others in your march going to tallahassee on the 10th. >> we are dealing with the stand your ground law, yes, with a
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rally, vigil and prayer on the 10th in tallahassee. you know, jonathan, i remember the first big rally when we got involved. all people were asking for, no one was making a decision on the outcome of the case, but we went down saying why don't you arrest? how do you have a law that assumes that if a man says i felt threatened he is automatically acquitted, that is all. when we found out this law really provided that it became a national movement. >> that was the key thing behind the protests that you were involved in, that a lot of people were involved in in the days before george zimmerman's arrest was that they wanted an arrest. how was it possible that a 17-year-old kid could be shot dead and the person who shot him not be arrested, not be put into the criminal justice system and
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held accountable. that is when we came to know the name trayvon martin and came to be horrified of the stand your ground law that allowed george zimmerman to go free. one of the more gracious moments was when they said over and over and over again that they weren't -- all they wanted was for george zimmerman to be arrested and then to face a jury and to be held accountable. and that they would accept the jury's decision. both of those things happened. the jury decided to acquit george zimmerman and they acquitted themselves with unbelievable grace. i think for the american people and people who want stand your ground laws as the congress woman said to stand down we need more people like tracy martin and sybrina fulton to protest and have the laws changed. >> the congress woman, you have been dealing with these laws and
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raising the question and people are now advocating like corine brown. i spoke last night with the father of trayvon martin. he spoke about an epidemic of injustice. >> it is an epidemic. it seems like an epidemic where the value of african-american kids' lives really don't mean anything. we got to stand up as fathers. we got to stand up as leaders and let this country know it is not okay to kill our kids. i feel as though this country values kids more than our children's lives. >> he feels the country values guns more than our children's lives, congress woman. >> i think the law invokes people to be aggressive and once
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aggressive you say you feel threatened. you think about ms. alexander a warning shot and got 20 years yet you kill a young african-american and you just walk and you are the victim. it is too much disparity, the law is sloppy and needs to be cleaned up. it started with a doctrine meaning if you break into my home. now it spreading to the theater and streets. it is something wrong with the law. and it sends the wrong message to the overall society it's okay for me to be the aggressor because i felt threatened. it is unacceptable. >> i am glad you said theater because you have the incident with the man killing someone in a theater in florida because they got in an argument threw popcorn at him. he is citing stand your ground.
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and then you get the turn around here is now the shooter is calling himself the victim of the man who killed both trayvon martin and called themselves the victim. >> thoughts about the victim, trayvon martin. the victim was trayvon martin, you knowt that? >> i was a victim when i was having my head bashed into the concrete and nose broken and beaten. >> i was thinking about that today. i'm the [ bleep ] victim here. i was the one who was victimized. i don't know how else to put it. they attacked me. i'm the victim. i'm the victor but i was the victim, too. >> you know, as something outrageous and at the same time
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something that is frightening when you hear people, two men, the criminal justice system -- two men that killed unarmed teenagers who even after that have no sense of remorse, they don't even say i felt frightened now i see i was wrong or now i felt my judgment was off. they are still like they had the right to do this. >> right. the lack of remorse is stunning. to their minds they were the victims. they were completely justified to do what they did. >> even after they find out there was no gun? >> exactly. they feel justified in what they did. unfortunately, the law allows them to feel this way. and, the congress woman brought up a very good point in her first answer to you.
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stand your ground was in jury instructions for george zimmerman's jury, michael dunn's jury. it is not there in big neon letters saying this is the stand your ground provision. it is how the jury is instructed to look at the evidence. and it is imperative for george zimmerman and michael dunn to continue to portray themselves as victims in this case because in order for you to invoke stand your ground or for the doctrine to be completely oblit rated and to allow you to shoot somebody because you, quote, reasonably have fear for your life or someone else's life you have to be the victim in order for that to work. that is the travesty. >> congress woman, two years later we continue to fight about this law. and we will continue to fight this law. and i think that trayvon martin's name will go down in history as maybe one that helped to change and in many ways make
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better some of the laws. >> reverend, failure is not an option for us. we are going to get it done. >> all right. congress woman brown and jonathan capehart thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. still ahead speaker boehner has a big problem and it is called the minimum wage. we'll tell you how democrats are trying to force republicans to do the right thing. plus, the i word is back, impeachment. you got to hear what gop lawmakers were saying about the president today. also, the video that saved an innocent man from going to jail. and that police didn't want you to see. >> get out the car. get out. get out of the car. >> get out the car. >> i did nothing wrong.
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>> now, the police are under indictment and the victim from that tape is with us tonight for an exclusive interview. you are watching "politics nation" msnbc. imagining,
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let's make sure we are giving america a raise. one thing americans across the board agree on is if you work full time in the wealthiest nation on earth you shouldn't be property. >> if you are working full time in this country you shouldn't live in poverty. today house democrats are ramping up the political pressure insisting lawmakers get on the record. the future of the workers depends on us to raise the minimum wage. >> let's have a vote. it will pass. it ought to be the law. >> mr. speaker, give us a vote. >> and the democrats aren't waiting around for speaker
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boehner to act. today they started what is known as a discharge petition to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour. if 218 house members sign the petition it goes to a vote whether or not mr. boehner signs off. look at the numbers, the annual salary for minimum wage working is just over $15,000 a year. that is not enough to raise a family. >> working as hard as i can. it is just not enough. >> jessica simmons works as a house keeper making minimum wage and providing for two young boys. >> the money is not enough. >> kevin wheeler works at the airport making $4.64 an hour. >> we are not lazy. we are not asking for handouts, working as hard as we can just
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to keep our heads above water but we are starting to drown out here. >> people feel like they are drowning, living under current minimum wage they are drowning. it is time for congress to do what is right. joining me now is congress woman jan schakowsky, democrat of illinois. thank you for being here tonight, congress woman. >> thank you. >> congress woman, you only need 20 republicans to sign on to force a vote on the minimum wage. what do you expect? >> we feel confident if the vote were called that we would have those 20 republicans to pass a raise of $10.10 an hour which isn't going to make anybody rich but certainly would give 25 million americans a raise right now. but john boehner so far is unwilling to give us a vote. so now as of this minute over 150 members of the democratic
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caucus have signed this discharge petition to force john boehner into giving us a vote. now we will have to put pressure when we get all the democrats to just get the 20 republicans to say yes, just give us a vote. let democracy work. >> you know, when i look at this, there is no question, none, that the american people want to raise the minimum wage. here is one, democrats, independents, republicans, whites, blacks, hispanics, college grads, non-college grads, those who make more and less than $75,000 a year. congresswoman, are the only people who don't want a minimum wage hike republicans in congress? >> you got it. republicans in congress because 71% of americans say let's raise the minimum wage. it is wide spread belieft that no family can really live on
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$14,000 or $15,000 a year. and so we want to raise the minimum wage not just for them, though, for all the rest of us, too. if money is put in people's pockets they are going to go out and buy stuff and we will stimulate the economy. beyond that, those individuals because they can't live on these poverty wages turn to the government for help. so the taxpayers are subsidizing companies like wal-mart or mcdonald's, companies that pay a minimum wage because those people need medicaid and food stamps. they come to the government just to survive. that means taxpayers are subsidizing them. that's just wrong. the american people don't want to do that. >> now, you know, some republicans really, really to me it is a galling notion because some just don't oppose the minimum wage hike, they are against any minimum wage at all. listen to this.
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>> i don't think it is government's business to be setting the minimum wage. >> i want people to make as much as they can. i don't think the minimum wage law works. >> you do not believe in the concept of minimum wage? >> correct. >> some don't believe in any minimum wage. how do you fight that? >> it is shocking. if the minimum wage had kept up with ceo salaries it would be $70 an hour right now. if it just kept up with the growth in productivity it would be about $22 an hour. and if it just kept up with inflation it would be $10.50 an hour. so people are working hard. they are working as much as they can, hopefully full time and they still have to live in poverty. the president was right. no one should have to work and not be able to get out of poverty. >> congresswoman jan schakowsky thank you so much for your time
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king? that from the man who keeps telling republicans to, quote, stop saying stupid things. let's face it, the right is so sure that president obama is a king that today congressman darryl isa and fellow republicans held a second hearing on the president's failure to executing the laws. the chair opened bullpen by declaring the uber-presidency and describes tyranny. >> the obama administration has ignored laws, failed to enforce laws, undermined neither the president nor attorney general have the constitutional right to make or change laws themselves. that is what happens in a dictatorship or totalitarian government. >> a dictatorship, a totalitarian regime. here is my question, if the
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president is really a dictator, why don't they just impeach him? today one congressman claimed none of the hearings are about that. >> actually, a reporter who is here today just went off about the impeachment part of our hearing when there was only maybe one sentence uttered about impeachment in that entire four or five hour hearing. >> what? who is talking about impeachment? not us. >> what if he wraps himself in the cloak i have spoken and there is nothing you can do about it? and we have used the i word here. >> that is all this nonsense is about, a way to get rid of the president. but if the republicans really want to do that, how about going out and winning an election? joining me now are karen finney and jamal simmons. thank you for coming on the show
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tonight. karen, let me start with you, what is behind hearings like this one that we saw today? >> you know, you would think issa would have more things to do because you know at the end of the session he would say there wasn't enough time to talk about jobs or other things that could actually help americans. i think it is exactly what you said. they want to essentially have the conversation about impeachment without saying impeachment. i say you want to try to impeach the president, great. that is how we will win the 2014 mid term elections. >> jamal, one congressman at the hearing today, he talked about how all reform needs to come from the american people. listen to this. >> mr. chairman, all true reform starts with the voice of the people. if american voeers rise up and speak loudly enough they will be heard in the quarters of the
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white house and in the halls of congress. >> but, jamal, help me out here. didn't the american people rise up? didn't they rise up and re-elect the president? if i'm not mistaken he won re-election by nearly 5 million votes. >> that's right. he is the first president i think to be re-elected with the must just of vote, i don't know since when. but the reality is they want to put this moniker of king or emperor on president obama but president obama has issued fewer executive orders than any two-term president in the last maybe 100 years, certainly less than george w. bush and bill clinton and ronald reagan. the notion he is doing something that other presidents haven't done isn't about executive orders. it is about the fact that these people don't want barack obama to be president and they are spending time talking to the
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smallest sliver of the american puplic who think he shouldn't be president. as karen said they want to impeach him, let's do it. >> if the president is such a king and a tyrant, how can he also be weak? listen to the right wing's past argument. >> the president has shown absolutely no leadership. >> obama's leadership style which, in effect, doesn't exist. the man is a by stander. >> it is called leading from behind. >> i think he is perceived as extraordinary weak. >> we really need a new leader. we don't have a leader right now. >> i don't think he has the first idea of how to use executive power. >> he doesn't have to use executive power, he is a weak, bystander. how can you be that and a dictator? >> it strikes me listening to that the people who are really thwarting the will of the people
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and acting imperious manner are members of congress, the republicans who are ignoring a president who got reelected but poll after poll that shows the republican party and their believes are farther and farther away from the things americans care about and the things president obama is fighting for. i think what that says to us is unfortunately what jamal just said. this is personal. they don't want barack obama to be president. they want to do everything they can to undermine his legitimacy and authority in the eyes of the american people. and for the most part it is not working with exception of the very small sliver of their base. that is who they are catering to. >> meanwhile on fox news today the network was promoting this. take a look. >> what about the constitution? is the president overreaching his authority ignoring america's supreme law? congress debates and gretta gets answers tonight. >> they are really hyping and
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promoting this notion up out of where based on what is beyond me. >> they are hyping it up. again, this president is not doing anything different than any other president except for one thing. >> he is doing less in terms of executive orders. >> let's remember this. what is the point of the orders that he is going after? he is trying to increase funding for schools, $200 million for schools to wire them for the internet. he is trying to make sure that kids brought here by their parents don't get kicked out of the country because they didn't have their paperwork in order. he is trying to make sure that we have a health care system that functions and that god forbid small businesses have a little more time to adjust to the health care system. they think the health care system is a burden on business or want to relieve them. >> health care for people who couldn't afford it and dealing with these things is
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totalitarian. you just don't get it. karen, how far is too far to where the republicans in your opinion cross the line and really start energizing their own demise in the mid-term elections or have they already began doing that? >> i think they have begun doing that. they cross the line about the second day president obama was sworn in as president. they have only gotten worse every single day since then. and, again, one of the things that we saw when they had the little compromise recently, we see a little bump in the numbers. i think the reality is the american people want to see compromise and want to see things getting done. a lot of the rhetoric and wasted time on these ridiculous hearings are not what the american people want and i think the closer we get to the election the stronger the argument against -- this is what happens when republicans are in charge. >> karen finney and jamal simmons thanks for coming on the
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show tonight. be sure to watch "disrupt" with karen finney weekends at 4:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. up next the dash cam video that kept an innocent man out of jail and that may put the police behind bars. we'll talk to that man in this video next. also, the tragedy that led to the 1965 bloody sunday and why we are still fighting to protect our right to vote. stay with us. n for tomorrow? tomorrow. quick look at the weather. nice day, beautiful tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. driven to preserve the environment, csx moves a ton of freight nearly 450 miles on one gallon of fuel. what a day. can't wait til tomorrow.
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tonight accusations of police brutality and cover up. in what merely turned into a gross mischaracter of justice, in the summer of 2012 marcus jeter was charged with eluding police, resisting arrest and aggravated assault on an officer. he faced at least five years in prison. here is what happened. police responded to a domestic violence call at jeter's home. no charges were filed and he says he left the home after speaking with officers. in a dash cam video handed over to authorities you can see police pulling jeter over shortly afterwards. as the first police officer approaches the car he pulls out
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his gun. the other officer is holding a shotgun. they begin screaming at jeter to get out of his vehicle. >> get out the car. get out the car. get out of the car! put your hands up. get out the car! >> i did nothing wrong. >> don't go for my gun! get down! stop resisting! why are you trying to get my gun? get off my gun. >> police claim jeter grabbed for their guns and resisted arrests. prosecutors say a second dash cam video has come to life and seems to show a different story. this video is from a second police car that arrived on the scene and slammed into jeter's
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car. that crash was not mentioned in any police reports. and in this video you can clearly see jeter's hands are up in the air. he does not appear to be resisting arrest. but that doesn't stop one of the officers from later hitting jeter repeatedly, even after he is handcuffed. the officer hit jeter in the back of the head. as soon as prosecutors saw the second video with the hands in the air they dismissed all charges against him. and now two of those police officers have been indicted on conspiracy and misconduct charges. one was also charged with aggravated assault. both have pleaded not guilty. marcus jeter was an innocent man facing five years in prison. if that second video had never been made public he might be behind bars today. joining me now is marcus jeter
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and his lawyer, steven brown. thank you both for being here. marcus, let me start with you. are you still shocked at how close you came to spending five years or more in jail? >> yes, i am. i am still in disbelief. i go back and forth in my mind thinking, you know, what would i be doing right now had that second tape not come to light. >> how did the prosecutors learn about the second dash cam video? >> well, he and my lawyer were going over paperwork. he noticed a video log that was in the discovery. and when you look at the video log it shows there were three cars that were at the scene, two of them had video running. and each video was signed by a detective that when i guess they take it out the car. >> so the second video, attorney
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brown, was listed but in their investigation they never looked at the video? >> the prosecutor's office claim they didn't have a second video. so we made several attempts to get it from the prosecutor's office while the case was pending. they didn't release it so we filed a request directly with the township. i think they inadvertently gave it to us and that ultimately exonerated mr. jeter. >> you requested the second video and kept saying they didn't have it. >> they were unable to obtain it from the police department. >> but you were able to obtain it? >> yes. >> that is very interesting. when they told you to get out the car, when they first pulled over, why didn't you get out the car? >> because they had guns drawn. >> when they tell you to get out the car you are looking at one officer with a gun and another with a shotgun. and as they were saying stop
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going for my gun, what was all of that about? >> a cover up to cover up their actions, we believe. there was no justification for the stop. there was no crime that he committed, no charges had been filed. we don't understand why they pursued him. everything that they said in all of their charges were false. >> let me play this sound again. this i found very interesting. listen to them as they say stop going for my gun. i want you to explain what you think was happening here. >> don't go for my gun! get down. don't go for my gun! get down. stop resisting. stop resisting. why you trying to get my gun? get off my gun! >> were you going for a gun or were you resisting while they were saying that? >> no. i wasn't. >> what was the yelling all about? >> we were trying to find that out from the police as we prosecute this case. >> they are yelling things that is not happening and the second
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video shows that wasn't happening because your hands was in the air? >> yes. >> i mean, what did it feel like, you are there being hit and being accused of doing something that was not going on? i mean, what was running through your head? >> well, in the time of it happening it just felt like it was just so programmed almost like they practiced it or was rehearsed. my hands were up the whole time. as he is reaching over my lap to take my seat belt off he is saying stop trying to take my gun. i felt like they were setting the stage. now, whether they were setting the stage for the convictions and the charges that they charge me with or setting the stage for something more serious like possibly murder. because, the actuality of it all is had one of the other officers
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felt like maybe i was trying to grab this officer's gun, you know, it could have ended very bad. >> a lot of people around the country have no idea of situations like this. let me say, i don't agree all police are bad or most are, but this is inconceivable to them which is why this tape becomes important, attorney brown, so they will understand that there are just situations that are bad and that people are not making these things up. >> one of the things that comes out of this is the importance of having video cameras running at all times during these stops and investigations. but for the fact that the tape came to surface this man would probably be in jail today. >> you know, this is incredible story, marcus. what do you say the police are now indicted? what do you say to those that are watching this tape that they should take away from your
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story? what is the lesson you hope that is taken away by the average citizen who watches this? >> i just would hope the average citizen, anybody that goes through the situation, you got to stay calm. it's kind of hard. you can prepare for something and it won't affect you until you are in a situation. it is like a family member with cancer, you prepare for them to die but don't know how you will handle it until that day comes. in that situation i don't want anybody to have to be in that situation but if you are i just say stay calm. you know, try your best and pray. >> that's all you can do. and then after prayers are answered fight for justice and hopefully something like what happened with this second tape can happen to others.
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thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. ahead, blocking the vote. early voting on sunday banned in ohio and democrats are fighting back. plus, the first lady's let's move campaign against childhood obesity has had star power behind it. ection. renews surface cells to even skin tone. in just two weeks, see pearlescent, luminous skin. new regenerist luminous. from olay. this is mike. his long race day starts with back pain... ...and a choice. take 4 advil in a day which is 2 aleve... ...for all day relief. "start your engines"
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tonight. the obesity rate for young kids is dropping. about 8% of 2 to 5 year olds were obese in 2012, down from 14% in 2004. it's been four years since the first lady michelle obama kicked off her let's move campaign and the president established a task force on childhood obesity. and over the years she has encouraged kids to lead active and healthy life styles with the help of some star power. yesterday she did the zumba with mario lopez. who can forget mob dancing with jim ey fallin. on dunking with lebron james while encouraging kids to eat healthy food. she brought elmo to the white house. she led a focus group with will ferrell to ask kids about their
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favorite fruits and vegetables. >> i do try to exercise every day. >> i think exercise is ew. >> exercise is not ew. >> all this star power has gone towards some amazing progress. there is still work to be done. the study also showed blacks and hispanics suffer much higher levels of obesity compared with whites. let's all keep moving in the right direction. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go-- yea, sure ya did. [ male announcer ] introducing at&t digital life. personalized home security and automation. get professionally monitored security for just $29.99 a month. with limited availability in select markets.
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unarmed. to protest his death civil rights leaders organized the first march from selma to montgomery. it became known as bloody sunday after police used tear gas and bill ey clubs on protesters. the national outrage over these images helped build support for the voting rights act of 1965. the right to vote was won by blood and sacrifice. but today it is under attack. ohio's republican secretary of state john houston announced he will eliminate early voting on week day evenings meaning many won't be able to vote after work and completely eliminating early voting on sunday. this is blatant voter suppression in the country's most pivotal swing state. but we got the right to vote
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because people sacrificed. our votes were soaked in the blood of martyrs and we will not let them take them without fighting firmly and nonviolently to protect what others made sure we had. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. ted cruz secedes from the union. let's play "hardball." good evening i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. american demaekeracy has rested on the people's changing loyalties between two major political parties, like two teams taking their turns at bat. for a century and a half we have chosen either a democrat or republican t


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